http://www.raidguru.net/index.php?page=39

start here...others please post any helpful info or links you have.

Ruol will be tanking Illidan, Naran and Fantab will be tanking flames.

I haven't figured out who will be tanking shadow Illidan yet.

From the experience of wiping on him, killing him and trying different strategies, in the end, it becomes the same.

However, IMO, the most important part of the fight for me is to control the shadowfiends. Why? Even if you control the fight well, killing Illidan who is close to death, the shadowfiends will wipe the raid in under 5 seconds.

On my first Illidan kill, we had 25 people alive at 5%. People became very excited and agitated by the close kill and shadowfiends got out of control. At 1%, Shadowfiends kept killing the raid and after Illidan death speech, they wiped the raid. Illidan died, the raid died too. However, shadowfiends DID NOT despawn, so a healer could not pop and resurrect the raid. The whole raid had to run back and then kill the fiends, which took a good 20 minutes of wasting time.

This is an example of when Illidan dies, but there are shadowfiends the whole fight. It is very important to get them under control. We usually had 2 mages ice blocking them and then lancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLexms2VY8 - Tanking for Naran/Fantab

http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t15397-illidan_thread_flames_azzinoth_question/

Can't stress how much good info is in these EJ threads....you have to parse it for stuff that is applicable, but worth reading for sure (i start at the last page, since the thread has been around for almost one year).

A few extra things I want to add:

No one should Ankh or B-Rez in Phase 2....there is a brief moment where you can be charged by the Flames of Azz right after you repop....wait until Phase 3.

Melee can and should dps the Flames, however they must be exceptionally careful when doing so, maintaining max melee range and following the tank's path without stepping in flame patches or getting breathed on. Everything I've been reading (and seeing in WWS reports) has melee on the Flames.

FR tanks can stand in the Eye fire safely. While it is not a bad idea to avoid them, it should not deter you from taking your normal path. The fire ticks for 1k on a 0-FR target, so it will be very light damage for a FR tank.

In Demon form, Warlocks should SoC off of Illidan when Demons are ~8 sec. away. They spawn from him, and the initial blast of SoC will make them that much easier to kill, especially as they make their way through the Earthbind and Frost Trap gauntlet.

Having a mage cast blizzard on top of illidan during demon phase when the spawns are coming also helps.

ya, but we don't have enough mages right now to have one spec imp blizzard...a flamestrike wouldn't be bad

In the thread you posted, something that should be useful for healers:
Link

Mamma Maudlin has imp blizzard!!! I'm sure frost is also better for parasites too. (Nova + Shatter Ice Lance = 1-shot ...or... Nova + Shatter CoC = AOE 1-shot.) I think frost would be fun/powerful on Illidan. OK, now everyone tell me how wrong I am... b/c I didn't research this at all. THEORY!

flames are immune to fire, so arcane/frost is actually not a bad spec for illidan alone.

For learning the fight, its the best if mages go frost. When the fight is on farm, its not necessary to be frost.

Speaking from experience.

I would Spec Into Imp Billz and Just Go deep Frost for the fight.

ok, after a successful night of progress i've decided that we should make a couple small changes...melee are definitely limited use in this fight, we can dps the fire elementals some times and we're locked out for all of phase 4...soooo Sciatica will spec elemental and i'm going to be going on either Stagger as moonkin or Avve as CoH if we need extra heals. That'll leave two rogues and Beef (three rogues?), and they can be on slowing/stunning duty for the shadow beasts.

lets kill Illidan this week.

Should have sci go resto, chain heal makes elemental phase easy mode.

we've got the heals in place, adding an elemental and a moonkin would really help our casters in this i think

one of the problems i had last night was when i would turn paths on the elemental i would spike in damage 7 - 9k almost dieing every time.

also when the other elemental died mine always seemed to enrage at the same time. is there something linked between them?

#648713 Stagger wrote:

ok, after a successful night of progress i've decided that we should make a couple small changes...melee are definitely limited use in this fight, we can dps the fire elementals some times and we're locked out for all of phase 4...soooo Sciatica will spec elemental and i'm going to be going on either Stagger as moonkin or Avve as CoH if we need extra heals. That'll leave two rogues and Beef (three rogues?), and they can be on slowing/stunning duty for the shadow beasts.

lets kill Illidan this week.

Melee is important to kill Shadow demons by stunning them and slowing them down. Its more important to stun than slow them down though.

PHASE 3 DIAGRAM



Gay stripey area = do not stand, splash damage on lock in Phase 4

Random people not in groups listed just spread out. Two healers in Ruol's group (usually Ptaah and Zoolandur) will be moving to the side, south of the Lock tank and healing him when Phase 4 starts.